You want it to be art and I want it to be magazine
A CONVERSATION BETWEEN HILARY LLOYD AND MANY OF THEM.

Tabakalera–International Centre of Contemporary Culture
San Sebastián, Spain
January 27–April 7, 2024

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MANY OF THEM: So…

HILARY LLOYD: Well, how could I translate the creative process that comes through dancing, nightclubbing, being at a party—all that—into the process of making art? It was September 2022, you were going to make an exhibition about the ten years of MANY OF THEM and invited me to collaborate. We knew that we wanted it to come directly as a result of hanging out and having conversations together, talking about life, love, politics, culture, art, film, books, magazines, music, animals, partying, porn, lots of stuff. Straight on, during one of these conversations, we recognized for the first time that you wanted to make an exhibition that relates to ideas around art and that I wanted to make an exhibition that is all magazine, a magazine, the magazine, magazines. And then? How do I get what I make into a show like this? What do we do with a bunch of objects from others,—a bag, a keychain, an image, a piece of clothing, a painting, a wig—and put it in there? How can it be art and a magazine? Next, during a meeting in the flesh, in San Sebastián, with all the sun and the long, deep views of the pastel-coloured sea, together with you and your cat COQUE, our conversations spiraled out and we decided to inhabit the gap between the experience of looking at a magazine and being inside an exhibition. Somewhere here is You want it to be art and I want it to be magazine.

*A conversation between HILARY LLOYD and MANY OF THEM.